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epic_dolphin208

Hi, I copied and pasted from 2 HyTek Meet Manager Result PDFs, it looks like it got the main structure, but seems to be missing athletes and results.

SwimSnap URLs -

https://swimsnap.com/results/2011-nc-nma-vs-team-greenville-6aa260

https://swimsnap.com/results/2010-nc-nma-holiday-invit-0181d5

EDIT: The 2010 NMA Holiday looks to be missing All Boys events, and the 2011 NMA vs TEAM looks to be missing "Senior" events (e.g. Boys Senior 200 Yard IM)

Thanks!
-M

epic_dolphin208

One more meet to add - https://swimsnap.com/results/2011-3a-western-regionals-6ecdc6

adam

Thank you for reporting the issues. I will look into this later today.

epic_dolphin208

Couple more I tried today:

https://swimsnap.com/results/nchsaa-3a-state-swimming-and-diving-champions-20a6c0

https://swimsnap.com/results/3a-state-swimming-and-diving-championships-b90f02

https://swimsnap.com/results/3a-state-swimming-diving-championships-7467cc (just a white screen)

https://swimsnap.com/results/2019-sunbelt-championship-meet-fcf890

adam

I did a quick check, and it looks like those are high school meet results.

SwimSnap works by recognizing patterns in the text that is pasted into it. Because of that, it isn’t very reliable when the format of the results is different from what it expects. In this case, the high school meet results use a different format than the USA Swimming club results we originally built and tested it for.

SwimSnap was released as a prototype last year and hasn’t seen much usage, so it hasn’t been a priority for us to improve.

I think the better long-term approach is to use AI to understand and extract the data, rather than relying on fixed text patterns. That would make it much more reliable across different result formats.

Thank you for testing it out.

epic_dolphin208

Hi Adam, thanks so much for looking into this. The NMA meets are club/USA-S meets, 2019 sunbelt champs a USMS meet, but the rest were indeed High School meets.

I think this is a really great idea, especially if it could lead to a results file generation to preserve older meet results on a limited basis, since PDF results tend to be what remains over time.

AI sounds like a very interesting approach!

adam

@epic_dolphin208 can you try it again? I think all those issues have been addressed.

adam

@epic_dolphin208
We’ve made a few more improvements to the parser, and it’s getting much better at handling different meet document formats. Give it a try and let us know if you find any issues.

epic_dolphin208

Hi @adam

Thanks for continuing to improve this! Apologies for the delay in reply to you as I've been out of town.

I do see several parsing improvements! Glad there was a way to get it to capture more.

I went through all the URLs I provided earlier and will list issues I still notice with them.

(USA-S) https://swimsnap.com/results/2011-nc-nma-vs-team-greenville-6aa260

Still missing Senior (15&Up) Events
Relay events not parsing correctly

(USA-S) https://swimsnap.com/results/2010-nc-nma-holiday-invit-0181d5

Still missing Boys/Mens events
Looks like some parsing issue for existing individual events

(HS) https://swimsnap.com/results/2011-3a-western-regionals-6ecdc6

A lot better than I remember!
Looks like biggest thing remaining is the split captures. Most of time seems to only capture the first 50.

(HS) https://swimsnap.com/results/nchsaa-3a-state-swimming-and-diving-champions-20a6c0

Incorrect results listed for Women's 200 Medley Relay (showing boys results there)
Missing relay splits

(HS) https://swimsnap.com/results/3a-state-swimming-and-diving-championships-b90f02

Individual events have messed up placement (50 Free Women's as quick example - someone is marked as 94th place when it didn't have that many swimmers)

(HS) https://swimsnap.com/results/3a-state-swimming-diving-championships-7467cc

It now loads!!!
Missing Swim-Off results
Weirdness with A/B Finals for relay events

https://swimsnap.com/results/2019-sunbelt-championship-meet-fcf890

Missing results under events

Thank you again for continuing to work on this! Know there's so many things to factor in for the parser that it's not as easy as set it and forget it. But this will be a great way to preserve some older results that are only available as a .html or .pdf format

adam

@epic_dolphin208

Thank you for the thoughtful testing.

When you get a chance, please attach the PDF files you used for those three meets, and I’ll take a look.

I’d like to check whether this is a copy-and-paste issue. The raw data in the files you uploaded appears to be in multiple columns.

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